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Greyhounds – Predicting the Results

I must start this series of articles off by saying that greyhounds are not my specialist area, that is horse racing, but I know a few people who are specialists. Unfortunately I was unable to persuade them to write articles for us but they have provided me with a lot of information about greyhounds.

Since a number of you have asked if we can build a greyhound rating system I thought that the best way to proceed was to find out as much information as possible first and then structure a possible ratings method around this information.

Of course what this means is that I have embarked upon a series of articles that I hope will increase your knowledge of greyhound racing and allow us to develop a method of rating them at the end. Any comments, suggestions and thoughts are welcome.

The Different Grades of Racing

Like horse racing there are different levels of quality in greyhounds. In horse racing we call these official class levels, in greyhounds they are known as Grades and this is what we will focus our attention on this week.

As well as Graded Racing we get Open Racing (OR) and Hurdle events. Hurdle races will have a prefix to the race grading of H or CH which stands for Hurdle or Chase. In a Chase race two extra hurdles are added.

In these hurdle races an owner may choose to give their dog a ‘Hurdle Handslip’. When this is done the owner releases the dog by hand, usually along the straight part of the course, in order to give them more time to see the hurdles.

Important Note – If a dog raced in a hurdle race last time out and is coming back to race on the flat then this can be a good indication of a good performance. The hurdles require the dog to concentrate more and they usually keep this heightened level for the next race.

In the UK the majority of races are Graded and the grades go from A1 to A11. These are roughly broken up as follows:

A1-A3 – The top grade races have the best runners and the dogs will usually average 38-39mph.

A4-A6 – The middle grade level runners still race at some of the top grade tracks. These are still good racers and can often equal an A1 dog at a lower class track. The average speed is 37-38mph.

A7-A11 – The low grade races will usually contain the runners beginning or finishing their careers. Average speeds are 35-37mph.

It is not unusual for graded runners to race once, twice or even three times a week although a decline in performance indicates that the dog needs a rest. As with horse racing, knowing the grade (class) level of the race is very important in predicting the outcome and the same questions apply to greyhounds, such as ‘Do I back the runner moving up in class or dropping down in class?’ We can ask ourselves the same questions we ask in horse racing to help us find the winner.

Predicting the results of graded races is much harder than open races. These are similar to handicap horse races, except possibly better handicapped, where the dogs are graded exceptionally well by the graders with only the tiniest of differences between the runners. An open race is, as the name suggests, open.

This means that it may be easier to find a profit at the Open races although this will limit the amount of races available to us as the majority in the UK are Graded.

In the next article we shall take a look at greyhound tracks and the types of conditions that they can be in and whether this affects the results of a race.

Michael Wilding

Michael started the Race Advisor in 2009 to help punters improve their betting profits and think outside the box with their betting strategies. To date he has written over 450 articles on the site and recently started UK Racing News which has become a leading news site for horse racing in the UK and IRE. Check out my personal blog or my Google+

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8 Comments

  1. A Very intereting read.
    BUT I disagree with your comment on Open races, as most of these races bring together greyhounds which have ran at different tracks and various goings etc which means it is very dificult to find the winner based on racing times.

    Tim

  2. Hi Tim, that would also make sense. I must say again that greyhounds are not my specialist area and am learning a lot as I go. Would you say that Open Races are harder than Graded? I would have thought that although it will still be difficult to predict the Open’s it would be harder still to predict the Graded.

  3. Hi R A
    How often will you be adding to this as i am looking
    forwards to the next installment as i do like a wager now and again on the greyhounds
    regards
    glen

  4. i got into the dogs this how it be working out for me
    Nottingham | 16/11/2010 No Double just 1 winner 7/1 just one meeting

    this is what i been doing only 20p stakes

    1,1,1,2,3,4 Dont Forget To Stop On 1st Winner Thats 1st 6 Races Only

    12 DOUBLES ALL 9 RACES

    ( 1-2 ) ( 1-3 ) ( 2 -3 ) ( 2-5 ) ( 3-6 ) ( 4-5 )
    ( 4-7 ) ( 5-6 ) ( 5-7 ) ( 6-9 ) ( 7-8 ) ( 8 -9 )

    =============================

    9 X DOUBLES 1ST 7 RACES

    1-2,2-7,6-7,1-6,1-7,

    2-6,3-4,3-5,4-5

    now i looking at patents 56 bets

    Hall Green | 15/11/2010 £24.15P
    Perry Barr | 14/11/2010 No Double Today
    Romford | 13/11/2010no Double Today if doing stop at 1st winner doing well.
    Hove | 12/11/2010 £55
    Sunderland | 11/11/2010 JUST ONE WINNER 5/2
    Hall Green | 10/11/2010 £ 18.75
    Nottingham | 09/11/2010 £20.62p
    Hall Green | 08/11/2010 £13.75
    Hove | 07/11/2010 No Double Today Just One Winner 6/1
    Romford | 06/11/2010 £20.25
    Oxford | 05/11/2010 £40.50p
    Sunderland | 04/11/2010 £25
    Hall Green | 03/11/2010 £25,43p
    Nottingham | 02/11/2010 bit down today got back £9.62p
    Hall Green | 01/11/2010 £30
    Oxford | 29/10/2010 £78
    Hove | 31/10/2010 52.25p

  5. good article,just wondering where would i find a site like Adrian Masseys that gives stats on dogs.i have spent hours online looking for the strike rate of favs etc to no avail. cheers. derek

    1. Thanks Derek. As far as I know there isn’t anything like Massey for the dogs. There is a new site called dogstats which I found the other day and it looks good. I am going to be testing there service next month and shall of course get a review written when we have finished using it, so keep an eye out.

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